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		<title>By: blackhatseo</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-8398</link>
		<dc:creator>blackhatseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whitehatters that cant make money make up that stuff abotu ethics ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whitehatters that cant make money make up that stuff abotu ethics <img src='http://www.chewie.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-8087</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree..SEO doesn&#039;t necessary mean that it is unethical right away..if it&#039;s just there to alter the algorithm of SEs..but if starts to bug other people through continuous spamming then that&#039;s unethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree..SEO doesn&#39;t necessary mean that it is unethical right away..if it&#39;s just there to alter the algorithm of SEs..but if starts to bug other people through continuous spamming then that&#39;s unethical.</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing Watch Monday 1 September 2008 &#124; AffiliateDragon.com</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-2066</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing Watch Monday 1 September 2008 &#124; AffiliateDragon.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gab Goldenberg decides when &#8220;blackhat&#8221; methods are ethical and unethical. [Chewie] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gab Goldenberg decides when &#8220;blackhat&#8221; methods are ethical and unethical. [Chewie] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spamming With Chutzpah: Michigan&#8217;s Trademark Productions&#8217; Rob Aimclear &#124; SEO ROI Services</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>Spamming With Chutzpah: Michigan&#8217;s Trademark Productions&#8217; Rob Aimclear &#124; SEO ROI Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from Aimclear, Clickz and others. See the Sphinn thread I just linked to for more info. This is non-ethical blackhat SEO, if one can even call it that (I feel like I&#8217;m insulting the truly creative folks like this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from Aimclear, Clickz and others. See the Sphinn thread I just linked to for more info. This is non-ethical blackhat SEO, if one can even call it that (I feel like I&#8217;m insulting the truly creative folks like this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JosephLawrenson</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>JosephLawrenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great point of view. Its nice to see that someone is out there that see&#039;s Google for what they are, unlike doug Hitler Heil. He is so far up Matt Cutts&#039;s backside that he can&#039;t see anymore. What&#039;s more he was trying to build reputation off your blog to his own site which is also SPAMMY doug even if the link wasn&#039;t there.Ethical not! and look at his website who is he to be in here. Anyway enough about thicko great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great point of view. Its nice to see that someone is out there that see&#8217;s Google for what they are, unlike doug Hitler Heil. He is so far up Matt Cutts&#8217;s backside that he can&#8217;t see anymore. What&#8217;s more he was trying to build reputation off your blog to his own site which is also SPAMMY doug even if the link wasn&#8217;t there.Ethical not! and look at his website who is he to be in here. Anyway enough about thicko great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Chewie</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dean:

can you point me in the direction of the post you put on Google? I will be more than happy to take a quick look at what could be wrong. You don&#039;t seem to have a lot of back links into your site (35) so its not uncommon to see sites drop a little in a competitive market without regular links.

Give me more info and I will tell you what i can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dean:</p>
<p>can you point me in the direction of the post you put on Google? I will be more than happy to take a quick look at what could be wrong. You don&#8217;t seem to have a lot of back links into your site (35) so its not uncommon to see sites drop a little in a competitive market without regular links.</p>
<p>Give me more info and I will tell you what i can.</p>
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		<title>By: dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this site is my first big site, in a competitive keyword market that is dominated by multi million dollar wall street firms.

our site has been dropped by google, so i put a post on google, and got accused of blackhat seo.  i have no idea what that means, and googled it, and found your blog.  

is this a serious offense that i or my design team has committed that i am unaware of, and if so would anyone be able to point me to what we have actually done thats wrong, etc...

thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this site is my first big site, in a competitive keyword market that is dominated by multi million dollar wall street firms.</p>
<p>our site has been dropped by google, so i put a post on google, and got accused of blackhat seo.  i have no idea what that means, and googled it, and found your blog.  </p>
<p>is this a serious offense that i or my design team has committed that i am unaware of, and if so would anyone be able to point me to what we have actually done thats wrong, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks!!</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s Talk About Spaceships &#187; SEO Chicks</title>
		<link>http://www.chewie.co.uk/blackhat/does-blackhat-automatically-mean-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s Talk About Spaceships &#187; SEO Chicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] field. Now I will be the first to admit that I do quite love a bit of controversy, especially when black hat SEO is involved, and I respect passion, no matter where it&#8217;s directed, but why is it that we feel [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] field. Now I will be the first to admit that I do quite love a bit of controversy, especially when black hat SEO is involved, and I respect passion, no matter where it&#8217;s directed, but why is it that we feel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW:

You wrote:
&quot;They profit off me without asking me for my rules.&quot;

They don&#039;t have to ask you as you already state through your robots.txt that it&#039;s OK for Google to profit off your site.

You don&#039;t have to ask Google for their rules either. Google shows/tells you their rules on their own website, of which YOUR site wants to profit off of. Considering your site wants to profit off of Google, and your site wants to do well in the Google search results, then you either must abide by Google&#039;s rules and be called ethical, or you don&#039;t abide by their rules, and be called unethical.

Your site and your competitor&#039;s site do not have a formal agreement either. If your competitor is abiding by the rules and you are not, you are unethical. You can&#039;t make up your own business ethics as you go. It doesn&#039;t work that way.

When you play a game of cards with friends, you all don&#039;t have a formal agreement to not cheat either. It&#039;s an implied agreement that you will NOT cheat at cards. If you do cheat in order to gain some kind of advantage, ...hmmm,.. that&#039;s called cheating, and that&#039;s unethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW:</p>
<p>You wrote:<br />
&#8220;They profit off me without asking me for my rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t have to ask you as you already state through your robots.txt that it&#8217;s OK for Google to profit off your site.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to ask Google for their rules either. Google shows/tells you their rules on their own website, of which YOUR site wants to profit off of. Considering your site wants to profit off of Google, and your site wants to do well in the Google search results, then you either must abide by Google&#8217;s rules and be called ethical, or you don&#8217;t abide by their rules, and be called unethical.</p>
<p>Your site and your competitor&#8217;s site do not have a formal agreement either. If your competitor is abiding by the rules and you are not, you are unethical. You can&#8217;t make up your own business ethics as you go. It doesn&#8217;t work that way.</p>
<p>When you play a game of cards with friends, you all don&#8217;t have a formal agreement to not cheat either. It&#8217;s an implied agreement that you will NOT cheat at cards. If you do cheat in order to gain some kind of advantage, &#8230;hmmm,.. that&#8217;s called cheating, and that&#8217;s unethical.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Huh?

As always slightly; you can spin with the best of them. 

You have an implied agreement with Google since you want to be in their index on THEIR website. You must abide by their rules. Google isn&#039;t trying to get into YOUR website without your permission. You give them permission by not disallowing them. If you actually had the rule for Google to NOT profit off your website, it&#039;s in your own power to do that.

The old arguement that Google profits off of you is just that........real damn old. Give it up already.

You want in Google&#039;s index; You abide by their damn rules. Period. You don&#039;t want to abide by their rules? Fine then; you are a damn cheater who is cheating a competitor who does not cheat, and also cheating Google. That&#039;s what a normal human being would call:

.....Unethical.

Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Huh?</p>
<p>As always slightly; you can spin with the best of them. </p>
<p>You have an implied agreement with Google since you want to be in their index on THEIR website. You must abide by their rules. Google isn&#8217;t trying to get into YOUR website without your permission. You give them permission by not disallowing them. If you actually had the rule for Google to NOT profit off your website, it&#8217;s in your own power to do that.</p>
<p>The old arguement that Google profits off of you is just that&#8230;&#8230;..real damn old. Give it up already.</p>
<p>You want in Google&#8217;s index; You abide by their damn rules. Period. You don&#8217;t want to abide by their rules? Fine then; you are a damn cheater who is cheating a competitor who does not cheat, and also cheating Google. That&#8217;s what a normal human being would call:</p>
<p>&#8230;..Unethical.</p>
<p>Period.</p>
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